This episode is not for everyone.
It's for the underdogs. The ones without a father. Without money. Without a coach or a mentor or anyone in their corner. The ones who were told — in a thousand different ways — that they weren't enough.
I started interviewing business owners at age 7 on the streets of Brazil while selling bread door to door. I didn't know I was interviewing. I just knew I was curious. By the time the internet existed, I took those conversations online — MySpace, forums, livestreams, podcasts — wherever people would listen. 25 years of online interviews. 7 years of this podcast. 36 years of conversations that started with nothing.
Today I'm sharing 4 clips from past guests that have stayed with me. Each one hits differently. You'll know which one lands for you when you get there.
🥊 CLIP 1 — Frank Shamrock | UFC World Champion Full episode → https://www.youtube.com/live/UXEFxbLMqnA
The man who fought some of the most dangerous humans on the planet — and taught me that champions are not built in the spotlight. They're built in the dark, when nobody is watching and nobody believes in you.
🎷 CLIP 2 — Scott Page | Member of Pink Floyd Full episode → https://www.youtube.com/live/FFJYOy4TAzk
When I was a child in Brazil — hopeless, with nothing, thinking about ending my life — Pink Floyd's music reached me through the darkness and made me hold on. Years later I found myself sitting across from Scott Page, calling him my friend. He had no idea what his art did for a kid he'd never meet. Never underestimate what you put into the world.
💰 CLIP 3 — Sharon Lechter | Co-Author of Rich Dad Poor Dad | Editor of Napoleon Hill's Outwitting the Devil Full episode → https://www.youtube.com/live/D6IP7XKXs7o
The Rich Mom behind Rich Dad. Sharon didn't just help build one of the most influential financial brands in history — she also brought Napoleon Hill's most dangerous book to the world. A book written in 1938 and hidden for 73 years. A book where Napoleon Hill literally interviews the devil to extract his most clever tricks for keeping humans stuck, afraid, and small. Sharon was the editor. Listen to what she says about it.
🌟 CLIP 4 — Frank Shankwitz | Founder of Make-A-Wish Foundation Full episode → https://youtu.be/PyO2L8urZ7E
My friend. My mentor. The man who used to call me on random Tuesday mornings just to check in — not because he needed anything, just because he cared. In this clip Frank tells a story about a little boy with a clock ticking on his life. Listen to every word. Then stay for what I share after the clip ends. Frank Shankwitz went on to grant 500,000 wishes to children who were running out of time. Five hundred thousand kids got a moment of pure joy — because this man decided to build something instead of just feel something.
This episode is my most personal one yet.
My father was killed in a car explosion. My stepfather was murdered. I was physically and mentally abused. At six and a half years old I thought about ending my life.
And then I made one decision.
Not a big one. Not a dramatic one. Just a quiet decision on an ordinary morning:
I will believe in myself just a little bit more today than I did yesterday.
That's the whole strategy. That's what 36 years looks like.
Your past does not equal your future — unless you carry it with you.
I will never take you to a place I haven't been before.
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